Alternative FAQ

[sandokhan]

I will attempt here not only to correct the mistakes that can be found in the current FAQ (the 32 mile diameter sun, the UA acceleration as an explanation for gravity), but to offer the very best proofs in favor of the existence of the flat earth theory.

Important Links:

viewforum.php?f=7.0

There is only ONE planet in the Universe, the Earth, located right in the center.

A very good map (which does not contain the first Dome, that is, the one separating the rotational aether layer which keeps in orbit the Planets/Stars/Sun/Moon, from our atmosphere) is the following:

http://www.freewebs.com/raacoz/enclosure3%5B1%5D4.jpg

Beyond the second Dome, we have the Oort Cloud which is actually the Milky Way (the first astronomer to realize this fact was the great Hans Hoerbiger), composed entirely of chunks of ice and not stars, we also have there gases and aether; the Earth is completely stationary, it does not travel anywhere with 9.8m/s or at the speed light through a sector of a Universe (as some Flat Earth theories wrongly propose).

Antarctica is actually the island of Atlantis (see here: viewtopic.php?p=33520#p33520 ).

Beyond this island, surrounding the Pacific/Atlantic Oceans, we have the continent Antichtone, a ring of land which has forests, lakes, animals. Beyond Antichtone, we have the ocean called in antiquity Oceanus/Okeanos (by the Greeks) and Ronin (by the Incas).

In ancient Greek cosmology the RIVER OKEANOS was a great, fresh-water stream which circled the flat earth. It was the source of all of the earth's fresh-water--from the rivers and springs which were fed by subterranean aquifers, to the clouds, which dipped below the horizon to collect moisture from its stream.

Beyond Okeanos lay a dark and misty shore which marked the farthest edge of the cosmos, a place where the great sky-dome rested its hard edge upon the earth.

Now, in the model known in antiquity, the correct one used by us here, THE STARS/SUN/MOON DO ACTUALLY RISE AND SET, through the six gates in the east, and correspondingly, six gates in the west (in the first Dome).

The six gates theory here: viewtopic.php?p=30467#p30467

They reach Okeanos, the outer ocean beyond Antichton, WHERE THE SUN DOES A 180 DEGREE FLIP (its so called chariot being described in some details here) and rises to light the other half of the semicircle (the Americas).

So in this model, the Sun/Moon/Stars DO actually rise and set.

In antiquity, there was a clear difference between the stars which rotate endlessly above the North Pole/South Pole, and THE REST of the stars, which do rise in the east, and set in the west, the theory here:

viewtopic.php?p=34143#p34143
viewtopic.php?p=33509#p33509


The True Flat Earth Map:


http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/GRAPHIC1/PSCI/pirireis2.gif

In the center we have Jerusalem (the mount Meru/Olympus/Sion is located in the desert, and it is aetherically veiled from sight, at its base we have the Garden of Eden), more details here: viewtopic.php?p=24638#p24638

Round Earth Curvature formulas/atmospheric reffraction/optical reflexion:

viewtopic.php?p=24714#p24714



We need to find the segment BD; first, by using the law of cosines, we get:

ED^2 = OE^2 + OD^2 - 2(OE)(OD)(cos s/R)

Then, immediately, we obtain:

BD = (R + h)/{RAD[2Rh + h^2](sin s/R)(1/R) + cos s/R} - R

RAD = SQUARE ROOT OF []

R = 6378.164 km

h = AE = height of observer/photographer

s = distance at the surface, for example 34 km between England and France across the English Channel

BD = height of observable visual target on a round earth


No curvature across the Strait of Gibraltar:

Islamic History of Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRSEFMCqK7I

Between 2:56 si 3:00 the author shows us the spanish beach and points towards the african coastline

Between 3:02 si 3:07 we can see clearly that there is no curvature all the way to Morocco; moreover, if we use the full screen option, we will see the waves splashing onto the opposing beach/shore...this is actually a closeup taken, again, from that beach...

Between 3:19 - 3:22, WE CAN SEE THE WAVES SPLASHING ONTO THE OPPOSING BEACH, EVEN WITH THE AUTHOR STANDING ON THE SPANISH SHORELINE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE STRAIT OF GIBRALTAR; on a round earth, we would see an ascending slope, with a midpoint curvature of 3.31 meters.

Between 3:43 si 3:45, the same thing, zero curvature...full screen option, the waves splashing onto the opposing beach/shore, WITH THE AUTHOR STADING RIGHT THERE ON THE SPANISH BEACH.

The Barbarians, here are the details, where we can see very clearly that there is no ascending slope, no midpoint curvature:

The Barbarians, hosted by Terry Jones

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=1

Between 38:28 - 38:35, we can see clearly ABSOLUTELY NO CURVATURE ALL THE WAY TO MOROCCO...the surface of the strait is completely flat...

Here is an extraordinary photograph to match, taken right on the Spanish beach:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/13094 ... 63fa_b.jpg


No curvature between Sandy Hook and Coney Island:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg740635
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg738428

No curvature across Lake Michigan:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=684&start=195#p31544

A spherically shaped star/planet would have been impossible to attain from the start.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=551 (the complete demonstration that a supernova could not have produced any kind of rotating gaseous nebula)

Now, a gaseous nebula approaching the form of a disk involves several things. Because of the rotating motion of the whole nebula, a centrifugal force was in action, and we are told that parts of matter more on the periphery broke up into rings. Matter must have been concentrated in just a tiny sector of those rings, given the distance (the diameter) of the rings themselves (in our case, about 150 million kilometers).

Given the fact that there is no such thing as an attractive kind of gravitation (the complete demonstration here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=552 and viewtopic.php?f=7&t=536 ), to get from a disk to a sphere, a tangential force of compression which would produce circumferential shortening/radial shrinkage (on the equatorial plane) would have been needed. To get from a disk (transversal cross section in the shape of an ellipse, with the eccentricity very close to unity, about 0.9995) to a sphere (eccentricity of about 0.314), given the centrifugal force of rotation, would have been impossible.

A rotating nebula could not produce satellites revolving in two directions (moons of Uranus, three of the satellites of Jupiter, 1 of Saturn, and one of Neptune). Venus rotates retrogradely, completely unexplained by modern science.

Being smaller than the Earth, the moon completed earlier the process of cooling and shrinkage and a has a lighter specific weight than the Earth. The moon was produced, it is assumed, from the superificial layers of the earth's body; this assumption means that the origin of the moon was not simultaneous with that of the earth; that is, the earth had to undergo a process of leveling (cooling) before the moon parted from the earth. Therefore, we are told that a stupendous collision took place between a heavenly body and the earth, but this collision MUST HAVE TAKEN PLACE AFTER THE EARTH COOLED DOWN, that is 3.9 billion years ago (4.6 billion years - gaseous nebula, 4.5 billion years - incandescent conglomerate of matter and elements). Such a collision would have melted completely the surface of the earth; this in sharp contrast with the facts we are told: 3.85 billion years ago, DNA appeared out of nowhere. Also, in the official storyline, this collision would have been responsible for the 23.5 degree tilt, but such a collision would have disrupted completely any axial rotation, not to mention the orbital motion.

Faint young sun paradox:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg718434

Impossibility of a spherically shaped sun:

viewtopic.php?p=24706#p24706

[sandokhan]

No curvature across Lake Ontario:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg722674

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg719893

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg718436

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg716466 (sinking ship effect explained)

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg675541


No curvature across the English Channel:

viewtopic.php?p=32083#p32083

viewtopic.php?p=32119#p32119

viewtopic.php?p=31667#p31667


No curvature between Irkutsk and Tunguska, between London and Tunguska:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1142

No curvature between Port Credit and Toronto:

viewtopic.php?p=33777#p33777


No curvature between Etobicoke and Toronto:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1090


Earth is Stationary, the Cloud Trajectory Proof:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1143


Radio waves propagation: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg719841

The True Size/Orbit of the Sun (Sun/Mercury-ISS transits):

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=830 (compare with the Moon transit video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmAKWf8 ... L&index=50 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmAKWf8 ... re=related )

The Sun has a diameter of about 1000/phi (618 meters), has the shape of disk (like all the other planets/stars); the Moon has the same diameter (complete Moon theory: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=709 ). Mercury and Venus rotate around the Sun, together, they rotate above the Flat Earth; Mars/Jupiter/Saturn rotate above the Flat Earth, Jupiter has the same diameter as that of the Sun.

During the first great planetary cataclism, which took place about 5,800 years ago, the disk Sirius A (now known as Sirius C) exploded in two halves, well documented in ALL legends from ancient civilizations: called Rehu and Ketu in India, Fenrir (Heti and Skoll) in Scandinavia, the Black Sun in Germany, Tiamat and Nibiru by the Sumerians, Sirius C by the Dogon tribe.

Thus, planet Nibiru is the Black Sun, which causes the solar eclipse, its other half, Tiamat, causing the lunar eclipse (having the same diameter).

Planet Kingu, the largest satellite of Tiamat, was Mars.

Tehom Raba from the Old Testament (great Tiamat in sumerian) means the Waters from Above, the Oort Cloud, made up of blocks of ice. In the sumerian epic, Enuma Elish, Tiamat means these Upper Waters, the ice blocks from above, AND at the same time the star Sirius C/Fenrir. Apsu are the Waters Below, and Mummu is the Earth. From the collision of Marduk (Jupiter) and Tiamat, we have the asteroid belt, called rakkis, completely different from the Oort Cloud which is above the Heavenly Dome which surrouds the Earth.

The cronology offered by the priests of the Brotherhood of the Snake, the Sumerian royal priesthood, was INTENTIONALLY FALSE; and the Creation of Man, intentionally fabricated, in order to hide the truth: after the visitors described in the book of Enoch and Genesis 6, arrived in the Middle East, 5.800 years ago, they started the genetics experiments, which culminated in the creation of the ape and also of the dinosaurs; the author of the Origins of Species was actually C. Darwin's grandfather, Érasmus Darwin, a well known member of Rosenkreuzer, who wrote Zoonomia in 1794.

In Enuma Elish, Lahamu and Lahmu are the Sun and the Moon, Anu was Sirius...


The complete destruction of the big bang hypothesis:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=551


Superstring pipe dream:

viewtopic.php?p=24650#p24650


The biggest hoax of the 20th century: General Relativity

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=601


Sun Neutrino Paradox/Solid Sun Surface Paradox/Cold Sun Paradox/Sun Coronal Heating Paradox:

viewtopic.php?p=24704#p24704

viewtopic.php?p=24705#p24705


The Case Against the Nuclear Atom:

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/cana/index.htm (the catastrophic mistakes committed by both Rutherford and Bohr)

   
Chadwick's Neu(t)rons:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=894 (in 1932, J. Chadwick DID NOT DISCOVER ANYTHING, read his own words)

[sandokhan]

All about the fake Nasa/Soviet space admin. missions:

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Satellites on the flat earth:

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Impossibility of an attractive gravitation:

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As I have said already, there is no mentioning OF ANY TYPE of attractive/pulling hypothetical gravitational force in Principia.

Here is I. Newton himself telling us that he believed in nothing but the aether pressure version as an explanation for the cause of gravitation:

Here is a letter from Newton to Halley, describing how he had independently arrived at the inverse square law using his aether hypothesis, to which he refers as the 'descending spirit':

....Now if this spirit descends from above with uniform velocity, its density and consiquently its force will be recoiprocally proportional to the square of its distance from the centre. But if it descended with accelerated motion, its density will everywhere diminish as much as the velocity increases, and so its force (according to the hypothesis) will be the same as before, that is still reciprocally as the square of its distance from the centre'

And now, Newton's explanation for the cause of the orbits of the planets/stars:

Isaac Newton speculated that gravity was caused by a flow of ether, or space, into celestial bodies. He discussed this theory in letters to Oldenburg, Halley, and Boyle.

Newton still thought that the planets and Sun were kept apart by 'some secret principle of unsociableness in the ethers of their vortices,' and that gravity was due to a circulating ether.

NOW, THE AETHER PRESSURE THEORY IS AVAILABLE ONLY FOR THE CASE OF A FLAT EARTH SURFACE; OTHERWISE, THE PRESSURE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE WATER OF THE OCEANS/SEAS/RIVERS IN PLACE, ON A ROUND EARTH, WOULD PREVENT ANY BEING FROM GETTING OFF THE GROUND, NOT TO MENTION THAT THE CLOUDS WOULD CRASH IMMEDIATELY, GIVEN THE PRESSURE.

For the movements of the planets and their satellites we have three possible choices of gravitation:

Pulling (attractive) gravitation - completely impossible, see the above demonstration (the link), also see the thread Gravitons do not exist.

Pushing gravitation - impossible, since all it would do is crash both planets and satellites against each other

Rotational gravitation - we hit the jackpot; the rotational aether field is responsible for the orbits of both planets/satellites

And, as you see above, Newton knew these things quite well.

For the force that keeps us (objects, living beings) on this Earth we have three possible choices, with the corresponding choices of the shape of the earth:

1. Round Earth

Pulling gravitation - absolutely impossible, see the above demonstration (the link), denied and dismissed by Newton himself

Rotational gravitation - impossible, it would keep us in a merry go round type of atmosphere, no living conditions

Pushing gravitation - impossible, OTHERWISE, THE PRESSURE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE WATER OF THE OCEANS/SEAS/RIVERS IN PLACE, ON A ROUND EARTH, WOULD PREVENT ANY BEING FROM GETTING OFF THE GROUND, NOT TO MENTION THAT THE CLOUDS WOULD CRASH IMMEDIATELY, GIVEN THE PRESSURE.

2. Flat Earth

We rule out both pulling/rotational gravitational force for the same reasons, and we have the pushing gravitation explanation, we hit the jackpot again. That is why, during all the Nasa space missions, from Gemini to the space shuttle program, THE PHYSICS BEHIND THE OFFICIAL EXPLANATION (PUSHING GRAVITY) IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE, CANNOT EXIST, CANNOT FUNCTION IN REAL LIFE

Now, we have two different forces, for the orbits of the planets/satellites we have a rotational type of gravitation, and for the Earth we have a pushing type of aether gravitation, therefore, THERE MUST BE A BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO, SEPARATING THESE TWO DIFFERENT FORCES.


On the Heavenly Dome subject:

www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/ ... lat90.html

http://www.sentex.net/~tcc/ftrad.html

http://www.infidelguy.com/heaven_sky.htm

http://www.peterwallace.org/essays/flatearth.htm

http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/ThreeT ... iverse.htm


No floating earth theory (Anaximenes): ht ... 744#p33744


Space-Time Continuum Hoax:

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G.B. Airy experiment (1871):

G. B. Airy's experiment (1871)

'Airy's failure' (Reference - Proc. Roy. Soc. London v 20 p 35). Telescopes have to be very slightly tilted to get the starlight going down the axis of the tube because of the earth's 'speed around the sun'. Airy filled a telescope with water that greatly slowed down the speed of the light inside the telescope and found that he did not have to change the angle of the telescope. This showed that the starlight was already coming in at the original measured angle so that no change was needed. This demonstrated that it was the stars moving relative to a stationary earth and not the fast orbiting earth moving relative to the comparatively stationary stars. If it was the telescope moving he would have had to change the angle.

(Imagine the telescope like a tube, sloped so that the light from one star hits the bottom of the tube. Even if the starlight is slowed down inside the tube (using water), it will still hit the bottom of the tube because its direction is already determined. If it were the tube that was moving, slowing down the starlight would mean that the angle of the tube would have to change for the light to hit the bottom of the tube.)

It is interesting that the original short two page report merely lists the results and discusses the accuracy of the telescope used. There is not the slightest reference to the astonishing result that this experiment demonstrates - that the stars are moving round the stationary earth.

Airy's experiment proved that the starlight was already coming into the earth at an angle, being carried along by the rotating aether.

See also: http://www.geocentricuniverse.com/Airy.htm


Stellar Parallax:

http://geocentricperspective.com/Negati ... rallax.htm

From there the conclusion:

The phenomenon of stellar parallax is not what we have been generally led to believe, because in exactly the same way that Eddington 'proved' Einstein's General Theory of Relativity in 1919 by rejecting, omitting or deleting 60% of his measurement data on the bending of starlight, so modern astrophysics maintains the misconception that parallax 'proves' the Kopernikan philosophy of the World hurtling around the Sun, by ignoring and dismissing the entire dataset of negative parallax measurements.


http://www.freelists.org/post/geocentri ... r-Parallax
http://www.geocentricity.com/ba1/no115/par-ab-rev.pdf

http://www.paradox-paradigm.nl/van_der_ ... -final.pdf
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_g ... orley.html

You might also consult the classic: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4816121/Olive ... r-of-Space


Michelson-Morley disaster (1887):


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Then:

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Not even today, after more than four hundred of heliocentrism theory being bombarded into every child's ear, THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE EARTH IS MOVING ANYWHERE.

THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT, REVEALS CLEARLY THAT THE EARTH IS STATIONARY...but this fact was hidden from public view...

Here is Einstein himself acknowledging this fact:

Albert A. Michelson died on May 9, 1931 in Pasadena, California, (U.S.). Albert Einstein, in the same year, publicly paid tribute to Michelson's extensive contributions to science:


"My honored Dr. Michelson, it was you who led the physicists into new paths, and through your marvelous experimental work paved the way for the development of the theory of relativity."


... Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth... is incorrect, if we admit Michelson's null result as a fact...

Einstein, 1928:

According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of matter, as consisting of parts ('particles') which may be tracked through time.(Albert Einstein, 1928, Leiden Lecture)

In 1920, after Einstein had become famous, he made an inaugural address on aether and relativity theory for his special chair in Leiden. In the address he states:

The aether of the general theory of relativity is a medium without mechanical and kinematic properties, but which codetermines mechanical and electromagnetic events.

About the Michelson Morley disaster of 1887:

http://web.archive.org/web/200406070627 ... ocs/21.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200406121139 ... docs/b.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200406111125 ... ocs/b2.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200406120334 ... ocs/23.htm

http://users.net.yu/~mrp/contents.html (chapters 5-10)
http://www.aquestionoftime.com/lorentz.htm
http://www.aquestionoftime.com/michmore.htm

http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm
These papers by Michelson and also by Kennedy-Thorndike have conveniently been forgotten by modern physics, or misinterpreted as being totally negative in result, even though all were undertaken with far more precision, with a more tangible positive result, than the celebrated Michelson-Morley experiment of 1887. Michelson went to his grave convinced that light speed was inconstant in different directions, and also convinced of the existence of the ether. The modern versions of science history have rarely discussed these facts.

[sandokhan]

Hubble/Tolman mistakes/missing Doppler effect/CMBR-aether:

ht ... 011#p31011


About neutrinos:

ht ... 641#p32641

ht ... 630#p32630


On Foucault's Pendulum:

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[sandokhan]

Official data (maximum distances, diameter at equator)
Sun - Earth distance, 149000000 km
Mercury - Sun distance, 70000000 km
Mercury - Earth distance, 79000000 km
Moon - Earth distance, 384400 km
ISS - Earth distance, 400 km
ISS - Sun distance, 148999600 km
ISS diameter, about 45-50 meters
Mercury diameter, 4880 km
Moon diameter, 3475 km
Sun diameter, 1400000 km

The best evidence we have for correctly estimating the size of the Sun/Moon/Mercury (diameter, distance) are the real time videos, ISS/Sun transits, Mercury/Sun transit, Moon/Mercury transit:

Sun - ISS transit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7HyAuhE ... C&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM_j2vO9 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl1ujuOHxiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7HyAuhE ... L&index=14

Sun - Mercury transit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTCf0Cnd ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFVDrcGa3xQ


Moon - ISS transits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmAKWf8 ... L&index=50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmAKWf8 ... re=related

As we can see clearly, there is no 149000000 km distance between the Earth and Sun, the ISS station is right in front of the Sun, just as was well known and recognized throughout antiquity, before the Rosenkreuzer conspiracy had a chance to change the data. The Moon transit shows the SAME THING: the ISS passes at the same distance from it, as it did pass in front of the Sun itself, the Moon and Sun have the same diameter.

Mercury passes in front of the Sun, at about the same distance as did the ISS station, and has the same diameter too.

No spherically shaped star or planet could have formed in first place, see the above messages for proofs, the big bang and the superstring theories are just worthless hypotheses. Without the attractive gravity (gravity - net force exerted, in the RE theory, by Earth on objects; gravitation - bodies with mass "attracted" to one another) theory, there is no round earth conjecture, see the above messages for complete explanations and proofs.

See also the transit photographs:

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Albert Einstein,Relativity, The special and the general theory, 11th ed., 1936, p.64:

“In contrast to electric and magnetic fields, the gravitational field exhibits a most remarkable property, which is of fundamental importance ... Bodies which are moving under the sole influence of a gravitational field receive an acceleration, which does not in the least depend either on the material or the physical state of the body.”

Herr Einstein, please do your homework.


http://www.rexresearch.com/nipher/nipher1.htm

The relationship between gravitation and the electric field was first observed experimentally by Dr. Francis Nipher of France. Dr. Francis Nipher conducted extensive experiments during 1918, on a modified Cavendish experiment. He reproduced the classical arrangements for the experiment, where gravitational attraction could be measured between free-swinging masses, and a large fixed central mass. Dr. Nipher modified the Cavendish experiment by applying a large electrical field to the large central mass, which was sheilded inside a Faraday cage.When electrostatic charge was applied to the large fixed mass, the free-swinging masses exhibited a reduced attraction to the central mass, when the central mass was only slightly charged. As the electric field strength was increased, there arose a voltage threshold which resulted in no attraction at all between the fixed mass and the free-swinging masses. Increasing the potential applied to the central mass beyond that threshold, resulted in the free-swinging masses being repelled (!) from the fixed central mass. Nipher's conclusion was that sheilded electrostatic fields directly influence the action of gravitation. He further concluded that gravitation and electrical fields are absolutely linked.

Professor Francis Nipher's biography:

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/ ... gleArticle


Charles Brush experiments:

http://www.rexresearch.com/brush/brush.htm

[John Davis]

You work is amazing as is your research.  However, I fear, you need to present yourself in a more attainable manner to the general public.

[sandokhan]

More on Einstein's mistakes:

ht ... 070#p26070 (the falsification of the crucial 1919/1922 tests re: Einstein Shift, GTR confirmation)

ht ... 071#p26071 (other Einstein mistakes)

ht ... 072#p26072 (how Einstein derived the Mercury perihelion equation by manipulating the variables without resorting to GTR)

blog.hasslberger.com/Moody%20-Eclipse_Data_From_1919.pdf (the analysis of the 1919 data falsification)

And the Pound-Rebka can be explained nicely in terms of the aether/variable speed of light theory...If the speed of the light pulses in the gravitational field is VARIABLE, then the frequency shift measured by Pound and Rebka is a direct consequence of this variability and there is no gravitational time dilation.

[sandokhan]

Worlds in Collision, I. Velikovsky

Chapters:

The Four-Planet System

The Comet Venus

The Synodical Year of Venus

Venus moves Irregularly

Poles Uprooted

Temples and Obelisks

The Shadow Clock

The Water Clock

A Hemisphere Travels Southward

The Year of 360 Days

The Reforming of the Calendar

The Mammoths

The Ice Age and the Antiquity of Man

Include the complete demonstration that Venus had a very irregular orbit which did not obey Kepler's laws at all, between 1550 BC and 687 BC.

The Planets operate on a very similar basis as do the UFOs; the rotational aether provides the force to keep them in orbit. These orbits are regular between planetary cataclysms, and extremely irregular during such a cataclysm.

The chariot of the Sun is made up of three stars, well known throughout antiquity, these stars provide the mechanism (aether engine, used in a similar fashion by UFOs [an UFO uses the mercury gyro system, heated by the radiation of the Black Sun, which causes the Solar Eclipse]) for its orbital movement.

Velikovsky was one of the most intelligent and most imaginative scientists of the 20th Century (if not of all time). What he did in Earth in Upheaval and Worlds in Collision (also in the unpublished Saturn and the Flood), is to completely destroy the heliocentric planetary system theory; in Cosmos without Gravitation he completely demolishes Newton's attractional gravitation theory; Velikovsky, given his background, knew very well of the ancient flat earth theory; what he did was to take a very unusual approach, not to present the flat earth theory, but to show the utter impossibility of the heliocentric theory, which he did wonderfully.


UFOs/Gravity:

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Assasination of Tycho Brahe by Johannes Kepler

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Galilei/Koppernigk/Bruno:

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[Dionysios]

You work is amazing as is your research.  However, I fear, you need to present yourself in a more attainable manner to the general public.

You are correct, and that will take effort and time.  I will attempt to assist him when I can find the time.  I have to say that your website is proving so far to be something of a stronghold for the more knowledgeable and sophisticated flat earth material which is perhaps better analyzed and made easier to understand here rather than critiqued by the mob rule represented by the .org forum much of which clearly fails to understand much of the material and would perhaps grossly distort much of it in any attempt to render it easier to understand.

I do have one other comment.  I posted on the .org site back in 2005 concerning two different basic flat earth models:  the modern model of Rowbotham and the ancient ones.  The ancient models include (1) the Christian flat earth as exemplified most famously by Cosmas Indicopleustes and Aethicus of Istria and (2) the various ancient cosmographies from each civilization.  Most or all of the ancient models have some important factors in common which are completely absent in the Rowbotham model.  Sandokhan appears to me to take the best of all the models including Rowbotham.  I do as well, but my bias is especially inclined to Aethicus of Istria, a "wild" early Christian cosmography (to quote Raymond Beazley).

.org discussions normally exclude any hint of characteristics of the ancient flat earth models partly because the users there are completely ignorant of these models and only know Rowbotham.  The FAQ at the .org site reflects this ignorance.  There are however some users there who would be keenly interested in this material when it is made significantly more presentable.

[sandokhan]

Let us now apply the foregoing theory to this photograph:

Antarctica Solar Eclipse

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080504.html

The rising Sun eclipsed by the Black Sun (whose orbit is described very well in the Flat Earth Bible, that is, the book of Enoch; had S. Rowbotham used the book of Enoch as a flat earth astronomical guide, things would have been much improved in the solar orbit theory presented in Earth is not a Globe). The Sun rises from Okeanos, to light the other half of the flat earth surface (the Americas), the Black Sun orbits around Antichtone for much of the time. To the North we have the Novaya Zemlya phenomenon (the rising Sun from Okeanos, the portion beyond the Land of the Rising Sun [Japan]), which now can be explained very well in the context of the correct flat earth theory: http://www.eh2r.com/mp/data3.html (see the flat earth map in the first message).


Moon Paradox - Moon Eclipse

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Galactic Safari

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3817/scan0001v.jpg



The movement of the solar planetary system toward the star Vega is completely incompatible with the first law of Kepler (copied from Arryabhatia).  The tridimensional orbits of the Sun/Planets, would be circular helices on a right cylinder, which completely contradicts the planar eliptical orbits of the planets, in the heliocentric theory. A planar eliptical orbit would be possible if and only if the whole system is at rest (with respect to the rest of the Galaxy, in the round earth theory), and not moving toward Vega with 20 km/s.

The movement of the Sun (galactic orbit):

http://biocab.org/Motions_of_the_Solar_System.jpg

The sun moves in space at a velocity of about twenty kilometers a second (in relation to the nearby stars). This motion, according to O. Lodge, must change the eccentricities of some of the planetary orbits to an extent which far exceeds the observed values.

ht ... 011#p31011

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Inexistence of irrational numbers/Solar system stability:

index.php?topic=1247.0


The scientific proof that DNA could not possibly have appeared by chance:

index.php?topic=716.0


The best proof for the fact that dinosaurs existed between 5500-4200 BC:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... #msg710424

index.php?topic=545.0

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Antichtone/Antarctica in the FE cosmogony:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/foru ... 42#p758642


The reason Antichtone cannot be reached has everything to do with the correct model of the atom.

The best place to start in explaining what gravity actually is, and how this is related to the vorticular physics approach which best describes the atom, is one of the greatest mysteries of modern science.

Francis Crick, codiscoverer of the DNA structure, describes this strange characteristic of the molecules of living organisms:

    It has been well known for many years that for any particular molecule only one hand occurs in nature.  For example the amino acids one finds in proteins are always what are called the “L” or “levo” amino acids, and never the “D” or “dextro” amino acids.  Only one of the two mirror possibilities occurs in proteins.

Living tissue (with the exception of some bacteria) contains only L-amino acids (laevorotatory-left handed); dead tissue only D-amino acids (dextrorotatory-right handed).


Linus Pauling, Nobel laureate in chemistry:

        This is a very puzzling fact . . . . All the proteins that have been investigated, obtained from animals and from plants, from higher organisms and from very simple organisms–bacteria, molds, even viruses – are found to have been made of L-amino acids.

http://creationsafaris.com/epoi_c03.htm

The Vital Body activates the positron (emissive) vortex of the aether atom, which has a left-handed motion, as compared to the electron, which rotates to the right (dextrorotatory).

A.N. Kozyrev's celebrated gyroscope experiments also show that there are two vorticular forces at work in the universe:

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=36 (also contains an account of Bruce DePalma's spinning ball experiment)


Vital Aether theory:

ht ... 495#p30495

These four types (four kinds of vibration) of vital aether (together with the vital essence, Jing) travel through the 8 extrameridians described in Chinese Medicine, and also through the 12 regular meridians.


This is the correct model of the atom:



This is the Quark-Boson system first presented in the famous Occult Chemistry classic by A. Besant (copied over and over again, by P. Dirac, M. Gell-Mann, J. Thompson, P. Higgs; it offers for the first time the best explanations of what quarks really are, antimatter and much more).

Occult Chemistry:

http://www.innerpath.com.au/besant/1Occ ... mistry.htm

On the fundamental discoveries from Occult Chemistry:

http://www.esotericscience.org/article5a.htm

www.iiyp.org/The_Amazing_Phenomenon.doc

Occult Chemistry, original format:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/oc/pdfindex.htm


Gravity is caused by the pressure of the aether which is transmited through the receptive vortex of the quark/boson system (see the Occult Chemistry atom description, and how electrons are related to the five platonic solids configuration).

That is why, as we get closer and closer to the Antichtone landmass limit, that aether screen prevents us from going any further; the same thing happened with the original Explorer unmanned missions of the late fifties, which ran into the aether layer which is located under the Heavenly Dome.

Electrical current is flowing aether through the receptive/emissive vortices; here is how N. Tesla made his discovery about the alternating current theory:

For him, the harmonies of the universe were played on a scale of electrical vibrations of a vast range in octaves. In one of the lower octaves was a single note, the 60-cycle-per-second alternating current, and in one of the higher octaves was visible light with its frequency of billions of cycles per second.

Double torsion vortices will attract the aether to cause levitation, for example: http://www.rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm (tibetan sound levitation).

The Neutral Centre can best be visualized as a drain through which Aether continually flows. The volume of the Aetheric flows throughout a structure are determined by the size of the Neutral Centre opening, exactly like increasing or decreasing the size of the drain in a tank of water. Control of the flow of Aether through this drain therefore determines the density and weight of a mass aggregation.

This mass nature not only determines what the elemental structure of a mass aggregation will be but also the properties exhibited. By altering the frequencies and phase relationships of a mass, we can change the weight, density and nature of the mass by reducing or increasing the Neutral Centre opening to the flow of Aether. Aether flow into a mass aggregate neutral center can effectively 'capture' other mass aggregations, causing them to be caught in the greater flow, to create what is called 'gravity'.

Here is the Neutral Point, the MerKaBa which links the aetheric world with the physical world:




Case against the nuclear atom:

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/cana/index.htm

http://www.geocities.com/longhairedbastard/chv7_4.htm

http://www.geocities.com/longhairedbastard/chv7_5.htm

http://www.geocities.com/longhairedbastard/chv7_3.htm

A nuclear reactor is nothing more than a gigantic Reich/Tesla aether box.

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Another example of the laevorotatory/dextrorotatory aetheric forces in our bodies:

   In texture the vital body may be crudely compared to one of those picture frames made of hundreds of little pieces of wood which interlock and present innumerable points to the observer. These points enter into the hollow centers of the dense atoms, imbuing them with vital force that sets them vibrating at a higher rate than that of the mineral of the earth which is not thus accelerated and ensouled.

   When a person is drowning, or falling from a height, or freezing, the vital body leaves the dense body, the atoms of which become temporarily inert in consequence, but at resuscitation it re-enters the dense body and the "points" are again inserted in the dense atoms. The inertia of the atoms causes them to resist the resumption of vibration and that is the cause of the intense prickly pain and the tingling sensation noted at such times, but not ordinarily, for the same reason that we become conscious of the starting or stopping of a clock, but are oblivious to its tick when it is running.

   There are certain cases where the vital body partly leaves the dense body, such as when a hand "goes to sleep." Then the etheric hand of the vital body may be seen hanging below the dense arm like a glove and the points cause the peculiar pricking sensation felt when the etheric hand re-enters the dense hand.



Double Helix theory of the Magnetic Field:

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe.pdf

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe4.pdf


Amateur Rockets

Actually, the way this altitude is measured is the following: According to RRS member Bill Claybaugh (1996, alleged 50 mile altitude reached), "this altitude was estimated from a image of the entire Black Rock Desert taken near peak using known distances between geographic features".

How do other amateur rocket endeavours measure their claims?

Altitude verification for the rocket will be primarily based on signals from an onboard Trimble GPS receiver. Backup will come from accelerometer data, and then from the video camera, which is oriented so that the curvature of the Earth can be viewed, recorded, and later measured to estimate the altitude.

Satellite Hoax:

index.php?topic=543.0

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An altimeter actually includes an aneroid barometer which measures the atmospheric pressure. A radar altimeter uses radio signals. Both methods do not take into account the layers of aether which exist starting at about 12 km in altitude and going to about 15 km (right underneath the Heavenly Dome), and which influence both the pressure reading and also the distance actually travelled by the radar waves.

Nasa managed to keep the true facts away from public view regarding its missions: that is, the crafts ran into a belt of resistance much quicker  and at a much lower altitude (12-13 km) than previously thought. For example, in 1958, the Explorer, after sending back some data, not only slowed down, but it went hay-wire as all the electrical circuits on board, including the transmitter and receiver, literally 'fried' out, burned up in the strong electro-magnetic currents of the radiation belt.

Back in 1871, G.B. Airy managed to actually prove the existence of the aether belts, see: ht ... 490#p34490

E. Hubble: ...redshifts are evidence either of an expanding universe or of some hitherto unknown principle of nature.

This hitherto unknown principle of nature is actually the aether belt which modifies both the atmospheric pressure at high altitude and the radar signals.


On the photoelectric effect:

R.A. Millikan:

In his main paper on the subject, (Millikan, R A, “A Direct Photoelectric Determination of Planck’s ‘h’”, Physical Review 7, 355-388, 1916) he says in the introduction:

    It was in 1905 that Einstein made the first coupling of photo effects and with any form of quantum theory by bringing forward the bold, not to say reckless, hypothesis of an electro-magnetic light corpuscle of energy hν, which energy was transferred upon absorption to an electron.  This hypothesis may well be called reckless, first because an electromagnetic disturbance which remains localised in space seems a violation of the very conception of an electromagnetic disturbance, and second because it flies in the face of the thoroughly established facts of interference.

    Millikan's concluding discussion includes fascinating ideas about what really happens, some sounding remarkably similar to my own. He repeats several times his vehement objection to the idea of localised packets of light.  For example:

    ...  if the equation be of general validity, then it must certainly be regarded as one of the most fundamental and far reaching of the equations of physics; for it must govern the transformation of all short-wave-length electromagnetic energy into heat energy.  Yet the semi-corpuscular theory by which Einstein arrived at his equation seems at present to be wholly untenable ...

The Compton scattering was interpreted in terms of photons and electrons only, as far as I can discover, because such ideas were in vogue, given the publicity given to the false ideas of Rutherford and Bohr; the alternative aether explanation was not given a chance to be put forward.


No atoms had even remotely been seen visually until 1985, when IBM Research Almaden Labs was the first to use an electron tunneling microscope to actually photograph the organization of molecules of germanium in an ink-blot. Here what we see from this experiment are indistinct, fuzzy spherical objects that appear to have some non-spherical geometric qualities to their shape and are in an extremely geometric pattern of organization, which was definitely a surprise for conventional science. How could the random nature of atoms described by the Heisenberg principle, ever result in such an ordered pattern? Perhaps the probability distributions are not 'distributions' at all. The image shown below was artificially colored orange and green to allow the eye to discriminate between the two types of atom that were seen:



Furthermore, when quantum physicists have studied the electrons of the atom, they have observed that they are not actually points at all, not particulate in nature, but rather form smooth, teardrop-shaped clouds where the narrowest ends of the drops converge upon a very tiny point in the center.

There are no Electron Orbits! Bohr's model, which started the notion of electrons traveling around the nucleus like planets has misled a lot of people and scientists. If you have learned such an idea, forget about it immediately. Instead, all calculations and all experiments show that no satellite-like orbital motion exists in the normal atom. Instead, there are standing wave patterns, very similar indeed to the polar plots of antenna radiation patterns.


Most amazingly, J.C. Maxwell described the aether in his 1861 paper, On Physical Lines of Force:

# Each hexagon is a portion of ether.

  1. Rotation of vortices = magnetic field
  2. Idler Wheels prevent the ether vortices from cancelling each other out.
  3. Translation of idler wheels = electric current
  4. Vibration of ether = light

# So electric current (translation of idler wheels) produces a magnetic field and magnetic fields produce spinning of idler wheels (which can be seen as electric current if a wire is placed so that the wheels can translate).

To see the figure drawn by J. Maxwell himself:

http://www-teach.phy.cam.ac.uk/dms/dms_ ... ?node=4085 (page 27)

See also: Spintronics, The Secret World of Magnets, by H. Johnson
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintro ... rd-Johnson

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The correct explanation of gravity, and the correct model of the atom, will lead us immediately to the flat surface of the earth (pressure gravity + aether vortices of the atom; since gravity cannot be attractive, it must of the pressure type, and thus this concept will work with a flat surface of the earth).

UNIFIED FIELD THEORY - GENESIS 1.2

2 Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters.

Therefore, if we read carefully, we distinguish two different kinds of primordial radiations: Darkness, which we already know to be Tiamat, the Black Sun, AND the primordial light coming from Jupiter (called in ancient hebrew tradition Tzedek).

Darkness (choshech, חשך, the dark light of peace, the ש of שלום) was born from the separation of some original unified light (veha-aretz hay'tah, והארץ היתה) into the lights of tohu (תהו) and bohu (בהו), which are chaos and uncertainty, respectively. Reunification of rectified choshech, tohu and bohu brings into existence the lights (ben Yosef and ben David) of moshiach known as the brightness (reunified tohu va-bohu, tehiru tata'ah) and the brilliance (reunified brightness ve-choshech, tehiru ela'ah).

Tohu, from the root תהה is a reaction to uncertainty (bohu, where bohu is from the root בהה); the result of that reaction creates darkness in awareness. The original unified light (veha-aretz hay'tah) is a forward projection (hay'tah from the root יתא) of one inmost essential (ateret hayesod, ט) element of ha-aretz (stable elements of existence, from the root ארץ); where this essential element focuses the blessings of life & peace reunified into certain existence, malchut.

Let there be light. And there was light. This light is the singular light of moshiach and peace, forth-spoken into unified existence by G-d. It is the rectified and reunified lights of tohu and bohu and of darkness, made one.

Immediately following the creation of darkness (the protective element), the spirit of moshiach hovered over the face of the deep (Bereshit 1:2).

So we have a pair of primordial Suns, Jupiter and Tiamat, and on the fourth day, a pair of visible luminaries, the Sun and the Moon; these four having the SAME diameter (approximately 1000/PHI = 618 meters).


A short review of the correct atom model.

Occult Chemistry:

http://www.innerpath.com.au/besant/1Occ ... mistry.htm

On the fundamental discoveries from Occult Chemistry:

http://www.esotericscience.org/article5a.htm

www.iiyp.org/The_Amazing_Phenomenon.doc

Occult Chemistry, original format:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/oc/pdfindex.htm

These books include the correct model of the proton/neutron vortices; immediately we will get to the electron model.

The basic building block of the atom is the ANU:



The strings of the Anu are made of the basic building block of our Universe: the Tachyon or the MerKaBa:



Magnetic and electrostatic fields are structures of Aether units.

Different vibrations of the tachyons give us the different types of aether: chemical, luminiferous, vital and reflector.

Over 100 years ago, this correct model of the atom was envisioned by the most prestigious physicists:

     Sir Oliver Lodge imagined the space fabric as having a micro cellular structure, each cell being a vortex whose size was of the order of the size of the fundamental particles, or even smaller. The medium was friction less and the rotational velocity of the vortices related to the velocity of light. The intrinsic energy of the ether was in the motion in the vortices.

     E. Whitaker wrote, “All space, according to the young [John] Bernoulli, is permeated by a fluid Aether, containing an immense number of excessively small whirlpools. The elasticity which the Aether appears to possess, and in virtue of which it is able to transmit vibrations, is really due to the presence of these whirlpools; for, owing to centrifugal force, each whirlpool is continually striving to dilate, and so presses against the neighboring whirlpools."

     Sir Edmund Whittaker, A History of the Theories of Aether and Electricity; The Classical Theories (London; New York, American Institute of Physics, 1987) pp. 95-96

The aether fabric is an assembly of the field bubbles/tachyons/MerKaBa that fill the entire space in the universe.

Torsion waves move through this aether by causing adjacent “field bubbles” to bump into each other.

Each time an impulse of momentum hits a field bubble, the bubble then collides into its neighbors, transferring the momentum. The impulse will continue to be transferred along even though all the bubbles end up in the same relative positions that they started in.

The rotation of the MerKaBa is driven by letters, see the fantastic graphics on:

http://www.goldenmean.info/dnaring/

http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter11.html



Matter is the absence of aether; those letters provide the force necessary to hold the MerKaBa together against the formidable pressure of the aether field.

The two tetrahedrons which make up the MerKaBa can have different rotational speeds.

The geometrical form of the base of the tetrahedron is not a perfect square; for those who have diligently studied the Great Pyramid of Giza, each side of the base has a slight indentation in the middle, 35.76 inches (8 x 35.76 = 286.1 inches (the displacement factor)).


http://www.alliancesforhumanity.com/matter/matter.htm (one of the best analyses of the Occult Chemistry classic); see also: http://users.ez2.net/nick29/theosophy/fp-192.htm


And now, the very best model of the aetheric atom which does contain the electron vortices:

P. Tompkins, Secret Life of Nature:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13399219/P-To ... reComplete (download in pdf format)

Pages 12, 50, 54, 55; Ch. 7 * pg. 81 – 94  (92, omegons; 93, expl. for quarks); Ch. 8 *  pg. 95 - 101 (96, koilon bubbles; 100-101, string model); Ch. 9 * pg. 102 – 111 (106-111, electrons bubbles, lines of force), 126-127 four ethers


The classic by S. Phillips, ESP of Quarks and Strings:

www.scientificexploration.org/journal/j ... illips.pdf
(ch. 1, Historical Evidence) - the very best account of the work done in Occult Chemistry, a must read

ESP of quarks and superstrings, S. Phillips

http://books.google.ro/books?id=5Qgfx4b ... q=&f=false

• DR STEPHEN PHILLIPS earned his Ph.D. at the University of California, where he also taught mathematics and physics.In 1979 one of his scientific papers was published, proposing a theory that unified particle interactions and predicted that quarks are not fundamental (as most physicists currently believe) but are composed of three more basic particles ('subquarks') which, may have since been detected at FermiLab, high-energy physics laboratory near Chicago in America.He has lectured on his research at the Cavendish Laboratory of Cambridge University, to the Society for Psychical Research, to the Theosophical Society and at the 1996 Summer School of the Dharma Center of Canada, a Buddhist meditational retreat outside Toronto, Canada.His work has appeared in several academic journals, popular magazines and newspapers.He was the British physicist who published three books discussing the clairvoyant investigations on matter (occult chemistry) done by Leadbeater and Besant.They thought they were describing atoms, but Phillips recognized that they were actually describing subatomic particles.

The Black Sun emits udana aether, while the visible Sun emits prana aether (transformed from udana); this udana aether, the tachyons thereof, are used to power up the mercury gyros of the UFO.