Dogplatter wrote:Munky Fidget wrote:The man with his hand not pointing towards the sky is also holding an ethics book, which apparently proves that he is the one who wrote it. Presumably he carries it around so he can say "hey, have you seen my latest work?" and satisfy his own ego.
Aristotle was younger than Plato. Raphael's intent as to the identity of the pair is unambiguous.
Dr Robot-Ham wrote:Do you not think that maybe it's just a painting and that the figures are arranged in dynamic positions just to look good, and that there's no real meaning behind it?
Dogplatter wrote:You're right, there isn't any concrete evidence either way. It could be two random dudes who just stole some priceless philosphy books and are discussing their getaway plan. The figure on the left points upward, suggesting a daring rooftop escape, but the younger one on the right, secretly doubting his elderly crime-partner's nimbleness, proposes instead that they descend the stairs and attempt to blend into the crowd before them. The rows of individuals flanking them on either side are eyeing them suspiciously, so they must act quickly or risk capture and punishment. The piece exquisitely captures the mounting anguish and guilt of the two pickpockets as they continue to disagree, and offers to the audience a strong positive moral relating to teamwork, communication and compromise in times of high panic and stress.
http://un2sg4.unige.ch/athena/raphael/raf_zoro.html wrote:RAFFAELLO SANZIO, The School of Athens (detail): Zoroaster and Ptolemy.
(Zoroaster - front view, - holds a celestial sphere. Ptolemy, - back view, - holds an earth sphere.)
http://un2sg4.unige.ch/athena/raphael/raf_raph.html wrote:RAFFAELLO SANZIO, The School of Athens (detail): Raphael and Sodoma.
Mrs. Peach wrote:Truthfully, the celestial one does give the impression of being a sphere because of the way it's being held. The terrestial one looks even more like a flat disc for the same reason. Raphael messed up there; the hand should appear to be cupped if he intended to convey the impression of a globe. Another win for FES!
...However, if we are to assume that the individuals are, in some configuration or other, Plato and Aristotle, it makes zero sense to assume that the elderly one on the left is Aristotle (and vice versa for Plato being on the right), as has mistakenly been done in this thread up until this point.
Mrs. Peach wrote:Truthfully, the celestial one does give the impression of being a sphere because of the way it's being held. The terrestial one looks even more like a flat disc for the same reason.
3 Tesla wrote:does that mean I can travel somewhere on The Flat Earth and look over The Edge?
That would be astoundingly cool (awesome vertigo!) ...
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